26- Win2K/NT4 ASV1 Playback/Codec FIX here... NOW WITH W9x SUPPORT
As the subject say i have added Windows 95/98 support to the zip. I would like to thank
Jasoin Ang for reminding me about System.ini : )
Get it NOW : http://www.mobilixnet.dk/~mob65975/AsusASV1.zip
+++++
Asus Video Codec for Windows 95/98/2000
Made by MayDay MayDay112@earthling.net UIN :
9343643 "Just msg, dont add me" I made this Codec installations because i found
out that the avi's made in a system using the Asus Video Codec ASV1 would not play in
other systems
because the codec was not installed. I guess you could just install the AsusLIVE in a
Win98 system but it is to big. The MAIN reason i made this was because icouldent install
Asus LIVE in indows 2000 and tsd@asus.com.tw is just
as good at replying to mail as Creative Labs is.
+++++ Installation Instructions
Unzip the package to a temp. dir of your Choice "Can be deleted when the
following is completed".
++++++ Win9x
Copy asusasv1.dll to C:\Windows\System
Edit the File C:\Windows\System.ini In the section [drivers32] make a line like this :
vidc.asv1=asusasv1.dll
Run the "W9x_ASV1 Codec.reg" and press [YES] and then [OK].
+++++ WinNT4 / Win2000
Copy asusasv1.dll to C:\WinNT\System32
When the asusasv1.dll copy is done run the "ASV1 Codec.reg" and press [YES] and
then [OK].
+++++
Voila, the codec is installed and the avi is ready to play. I have only tried this in
Windows 2000 build 2072 "aka. RC1", but i have confimation that it also works in
NT4.
Good Luck...
MayDay
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27- Midtown Madness at 1024 by 768
In video.cfg (in MM directory) change 320 200 for ex. for 1024 768
Ex.:
[ASUS AGP-V3800U SGRAM V2.08 beta3]
Type=1
InterfaceGuid=00000000-0000-0000-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
DriverGuid=d7b71e3e-4369-11cf-23-73-01-22-b5-c2-c9-35
bSmoothAlpha=1
bAdditiveBlending=1
bVertexFog=1
bMultiTexture=1
bTexturePalette=1
bHaveMipmaps=1
uSpecialFlags=0
Resolutions=7
1024 768 61613056
320 240 61536256
400 300 61277056
480 360 60960256
512 384 60817408
640 400 60461056
640 480 60153856
ResChoice=0
K. T. Hoekerd updated by J.M. Poulin
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28- Overclocking the video card
Asus tweak utility
The Asus tweak utility can now be used to overclock the card up to 190/220
(if you have luck and don't have any heat problem).
Tweak 2.03 and up at: http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Addon/Vga/asuse/enthusiast_hottestdrv.htm
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/beta/vga/tweak203.exe
J.M. Poulin
I set my card to 190/220 (with tweak 2.03) and its working find without any
crashes, 7 fans in the computer for enough cooling, fan on the front and back to
bring air in and out.
Kenneth <aprilia@nacamar.ie>
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The tweak utility had limit on 160 because that this spec is according to nVidia
definition. we are not recommend you to over-clock too higher, although you can do it with
no problem.
The reason why we have those setting is for stable and more function.
Asus / HC HUNG
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I would also like to mention a curious thing when overclocking the card: At one
point I ran the card at 115/120, in order to be safe. But then I noticed, watching the
colour palette in Paint Shop Pro, that the colours was somewhat faint. When I changed the
memory setting to 125, the colours went much more bright, and the card is still stable.
Perhaps it´s a timing issue between core and memory clock, and perhaps it´s something
people should pay attention to.
Henrik Stavnshoej, Denmark
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Tools
I am personnally using tntclk.zip uploaded at http://www.tweak3d.net/files/tntclk.zip
wich let you go to the maximum of your card You can find the explanation at http://www.tweak3d.net/tweak/rivatnt/3.shtml
Alex
-----------------------------
best thing is using powerstrip gx (www.entechtaiwan.com)
you can overclock ´til 175/215 running absolutely stable !
Stephan Ockenfels ibwsiegen@cityweb.de
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If you have a BE6 Mobo and you want to overclock past 112 with a Pentium 450
III etc. make sure you turn off side band support for your V3800 Ultra Deluxe. I
have two sticks of 128MB PC133 SDRAM DIMM Memory from Enhanced
Memory Systems and I would get locks ups in Quake II when I overclocked past
112. When I turned off side band support for the V3800 I can now overclock to
124 and it is completely stable. Just rerun the 38u213.exe and tell it not to
enable side band. If you never used 38u213.exe to flash your V3800 Ultra card
you probably don't have side band enabled.
CEO-ART <ceo-art@email.msn.com>
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29- Cooling
Another thing is that the cooler seems to collect quite a lot of dust. Mine was partially
blocked by it after just a few months. If one doesn´t pay ttention it could cause
overheating problems all of a sudden. I should mention that I do _not_ have a case filled
with extra fans that could suck n extra dust.
Henrik Stavnshoej, Denmark
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I bought my Asus v3400 tnt /tv video card at the beginning of the year. The fan
is starting to die and it makes a VERY annoying grinding/buzzing noise. How do I
get it replaced?
Hugh Leung <hughl@interchange.ubc.ca>
I had the same problem after 6 months. Eventually it will quit working,
then the card over-temps and you get application/system crashes. I bought
a snap-in replacement fan from TennMax. Check this link: http://www.tennmax.com/tnt_detonator.htm
.
Bob Sims <resims@uswest.net>
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30- capture drivers for NT4/W2k
1. Are you planning on releasing some beta capture drivers for NT4/W2k?
2. If so, when?
3. Will the NT4/Win2000 Capture drivers support multiple processors?
4. When will the mpeg1/2 codec be released?
MrDoubleYou
1. yes, in developping.
2. Roughly speaking, near to W2K schedule or a little bit behind. 3. a lot of MPEG2
Encode/Decode CODEC will be available from third party. We have ested some, for example
ULead. Asus also has one solution but not very good performance yet.
4. All MPEG2 encoder need to be charged (because of MPEG LA & other patent feed
&... )
5. MPEG1 encode is already available evrywhere now. try Ulead VideoStudio. There have one
function to edit, and trasnlate ASV1 to MPEG1.
Asus / H.C. Hung
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31- Delete/uninstall/remove and install drivers (some hints)
NOTE: it has been said that there were problems to
uninstall drivers properly mainly with drivers BELOW version 1.91. With
drivers 1.91 and above, it seems that there are no more uninstall problems.
Though it is always recommended to go to safe mode before uninstalling display
drivers (no choice).
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Please go to run REGEDIT from "RUN" of start up of Win98, search any key
work of "Asus", "V3800", "nVidia", "NV" and delete
it ( there is a search function in pull down manual remeber the file name of regsitry
key-word that your search and delete and go to Windows\system directory to delete all
those Asus driver file out from HDD. Normally, file is looks like: "V38**".
"ASV**"
Next time, I strong recommend to use Asus installer.
Asus / HC HUNG
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Uninstall drivers
Update bios first.
Uninstall all drivers. Restart. Install Standard VGA card. Reboot again.
Install the new driver.Reboot.
That should do it.
Björn Nilsson
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Remove drivers
Most time, using un-installation is useless. you have to do it by manual. such as go to
run control panel, and then click device manager -> display card-> remove ATI
driver, And then run "REGEDIT" and delete any "ATI", "Rage",
"EXPERT..." registry key from your system. If you still have not confidence on
above procedure of driver remove, then please go to Windows\system, and then delete
all ATI driver file from your HDD.
This method also useful for all other case of driver corruption. such as corrupt with
Vodoo2, nVidia driver, Diamond driver,....
Asus / HC HUNG
--------------------------------------------
Remove drivers
1. Change back to the default VGA mode.
2. Add/Remove Proggramm - Uninstall ASUS Driver (if this dont help, remove the ASUS
entries in the registry including any references to V34* and also the nVidia entries. The
remember to remove all files starting with V34* in your windows and system directory.
3. Finally, remove the .inf for the asus drivers in your windows inf directory.
4. Reboot and install new driver.
ps. (c) not my, i'm have bad english - thanx for author.
Martin McFLySR
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Remove drivers
When you uninstall a set of drivers you must:
1. Change the adapter type to - Standard VGA Adapter
2. If you can, uninstall the old drivers from the add/remove programs panel
3. Run regedit and remove all traces of Asus or Nvidia and Vgartd and OpenGL
4.Reboot
5.Install the new drivers by changing the adapter type.
If you don't remove all traces of the old drivers there will be problems
QWERTY
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remove/delete/uninstall drivers
It's important to remove/delete/uninstall any other ASUS or NVIDIA drivers or others (ATI,
Matrox, ...) you have before installing new drivers (NVIDIA or ASUS) or installing again
old drivers.
To uninstall, run msinfo32 and click on components, display, summary, to see what drivers
you have (ex.: under ASUS AGP - .....). Take notes or print. rom control panel, uninstall
ASUS and NVIDIA products and others (ATI, Matrox, ...) if you see some. If Uninstall
doesn't work, run again msinfo32 to see what is left and delete rivers one by one (to
garbage can..). Make a copy of registry... (regedit: Export registry file). Delete the
registry keys (regedit) for ASUS and NVIDIA and others (ATI,
Matrox, ...) under Software (local keys) if they are still there. Set your card to
VGA standard mode (display properties, advanced). eboot and install the ASUS products,
beginning with the drivers (2.08b3 and up):
http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Addon/Vga/asuse/enthusiast_hottestdrv.htm
http://www.asuscom.de/Products/Addon/Vga/asuse/enthusiast_hottestdrv.htm
You might want to flash the card with the last bios before:
http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Addon/Vga/asuse/enthusiast_drv.htm
You can try to Uninstall (control panel) and delete the drivers in VGA mode or in SAFE
mode if you have problems deleting in normal Windows mode. Don't delete anything under
other names than Asus and Nvidia or other VGA/video brand in msinfo32, components, display
(Ex.: Intel, Microsoft ...).
The trick is not to forget to uninstall ALL old display drivers before installing new
drivers (sometimes uninstall programs don't work like they should). And to install the
last Asus drivers while in VGA mode. Someone wrote that to remove entries from registry in
enough (no need to kill drivers one by one, but I didn't try).
IMPORTANT: If you had a Voodoo card before, remove also ALL traces of the old drivers. I
lost many hours because I didn't do that at first. You might have to remove them one by
one (Ex.: glide*.* and dd3dfx*.* and maybe sst1init.dll and
fxmemmap.vxd, etc.) if uninstall is not there or doesn't work...).
This to avoid the more drastic solution: format HDD and reinstall Windows...
J.M. Poulin
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Installing the New Drivers
Following extract from http://www.tweak3d.net/tweak/rivatnt/
:
Quote
When installing your drivers, it is best to do a proper install, which involves switching
to a standard display type, purging your system of any old drivers, and installing the new
drivers. Read and follow the steps carefully.
Step One
Right click your desktop
Choose Properties
Choose Settings
Choose Advanced
Choose Adapter
Click Change
Here you'll be presented with a couple of options. Choose to display a list of drivers. In
the left pane, scroll all the way to the top and choose Standard display types). Then, in
the right pane, choose Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). Follow the prompts, and
reboot.
Step Two
The second step before installing the new drivers is making certain that there's no driver
"residue" left behind from previous driver installs. If you're upgrading from a
previous set of NVIDIA reference drivers, do the following:
Click the Start button and select Find, and then Files and Folders...
Make sure the Find applet is set to search your C:\ drive and do a search for
"nv*.*" - without the quotes
Look for any files found in the C:\Windows\System and C:\Windows\Inf and C:\Windows\Help
Select these files and delete them (do NOT empty them from the Recycle Bin until you know
your upgrade has been a success)
Exit the Find applet
Click the Start button and select Run
In the Run box, type regedit; this will open the Windows Registry Editor In the left-hand
pane, navigate to the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\NVIDIA Corporation
Right-click on the NVIDIA Corporation key in the left-pane, select Delete, and click Yes
to confirm the deletion
Exit Regedit and hit the F5 key to refresh the registry If you're upgrading to NVIDIA
reference drivers from a manufacturer's proprietary drivers, you have two options. The
first option is using an uninstall utility that may or may not have come with your video
card. If there is such a utility, you'll find it in the Add/Remove Programs applet in the
Control Panel. There may also be such a utility on the drivers CD that came with the card.
If you have an uninstall applet, use it. If not, you'll have to take a different approach
to "uninstalling" the old drivers. This is where System Info comes in. It's a
handy little applet in Windows that displays information about installed components,
drivers, resources, etc.. To use it, do the following:
Click the Start button and select Run In the Run box, type msinfo32 Once
System Information opens, click on Components and then Display (in the left-hand pane) In
the right-hand pane, System Info will display a list of information about the display
drivers that are CURRENTLY INSTALLED. Each file has a Company Name entry, which you need
to pay attention to. If a ile's Company Name is either Intel Corporation or Microsoft
Corporation, forget that you ever saw it. As for the rest of the files listed, write down
the name of each one. Do a Find for these files as outlined in step two (above), deleting
each file as you go.
Next, from the System Information utility, select System Configuration Utility from the
Tools menu, and select the Startup tab. Look through the list for anything related to your
old drivers. For example, when removing reative Labs' drivers, you may find something that
refers to a "Blaster Control," such as bcontrol.exe or blasterc.exe. Uncheck
these items, and close the utilities. (If you're prompted to restart, it is recommended
that ou do so.)
Step Three
Now to install the new drivers.... Make sure you have extracted the .zip containing the
driver files to an easy-to-find location. Once you've done so:
(The following pertains only to NVIDIA reference drivers, and may not work
properly with non-NVIDIA drivers.)
Right-click the desktop and select Properties Click the Settings tab, and click the
Advanced button Click the Adapter tab, and click the Change button Click Next, in the
update Device Driver Wizard Select the radio button for Display a list of all the drivers
in a specific location...
Click the Next button and click the Have Disk button
In the Install From Disk box, click the Browse button, and point Windows to where you
extracted the new driver files
Click Okay, then Okay again, and in the Select Device window, select either TNT, TNT2, or
TNT2 Ultra, depending on which card you own Click Okay, and then click Next Let Windows
install the new drivers, and click Finish
Click Okay, Apply, and Okay
When prompted to restart your computer, do so Mission accomplished. Enjoy your new
drivers.
unquote
Instead of nvidia check V38 files. Hope it will help you like it helps me to get back 191
driver wich personaly and following 3Dmark works beter than 208 (beta!)
Alex VN
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32- No TV out tab with TV out card / power issues
NOTE: it has been said, though not confirmed by
Asus, that V3800 cards with series numbers beginning with 97C... and
above (rather than 96C.... and below) have been modified to avoid the problems
generated by using low power motherboards (found under the bar code
information on the packing box).
-------------------------------------------
*** check different answers / solutions below *** related to motherboard
used ***
--------------------------------------------
Basically, the power problem occurs when the VIO 3.3 voltage being supplied to the card is
insufficient. This can be caused by an inadequate supply voltage from the PSU, by a
setting on the Mainboard or by other cards in the machine stealing power from the AGP
slot.
Scott Small
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Anyone having game lockups checkout out the following link, should solve your
problems
http://www.tech-review.com/reviews/computers/articles/troubleshooting/tnt2/
Andre Iskender <iskend@windsor.igs.net>
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For Abit user or other issue, please be careful on 3.3V power level in AGP side ( not the
system monitor IC side ). If it is too low, because of too many components in system or
low walt-output from your PSU, then AGP card with huge power consumption may have problem.
especially on TV-out. New v3800 has fixed it by add component back to PCB. If you really
have this issue, go: upgrade your PSU or rework it. ( low voltage is not good to
your system ) or reduce component from your system, or revise to new V3800. However, Low
voltage is still not good at all to your system, Even your V3800 can work not problem. You
should upgrade it too. May be change to Asus P2B is good idea for you!
Asus / HC HUNG
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Power issue with some motherboards
Please contact to your local distributors to replace new V3800 whcih has ixed low voltage
issue. and is safe to working with low voltage motherboard. However, from system stability
point of view, your low voltage MB and system need to get upgrade too. Although new V3800
can work with those MB no problem. but low voltage issue is still not goood at all to your
system.
change to bigger PSU or replace the main board. which MB? My personal suggestion is Asus
P2B...
Asus / HC HUNG
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Power issue Asus P2B
P2B is discontinued. Suggest P2B-F or P3B-F but be very careful with the P3B-F as we are
getting some feedback with some problematic issues as yet unresolved. P2B-F is the board
of choice.
Jay Garcia
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Tweak the PSU
Having problems with your TV out tab not showing up? From what others have earned,
the problem is most likely the video board not getting enough 3.3V from your power
supply. This was not the case with my board but others have reported changing their
power supply fixed the problem and the TV tab appeared.ee the complete step by step
solution:
http://home.att.net/~bt-pj.hutchinson/
Hutchsman
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Tweaking PSU
SYMPTOMS:
to everybody with the following problems:
1) windows hangs on startup and/or
2) no tv-out and/or
3) garbeled video-in and/or
4) other hardware related problems aka 'the voltage problem' :
SOLUTION:
check your VIO/3.3V value (preferrably in BIOS) (was 3.29 with me)
open your computer case
get the PSU out
open PSU (might void guarantee... check)
look for 'dials' that look like screws
turn the one closest to the orange (=3.3V) a little to the left or the right
connect PSU and check VIO/3.3V value (3.47 with me!!!)
if you don't get the voltage right in one try (you won't) try again.
WARNINGS:
1) PLEASE ensure your own safety.... UNPLUG!
2) mind any guarantee labels.... if you care about your PSU
3) yes you can also turn VIO down... my G100 let me get into the bios just fine at 2.84 V
:) but your v3800 probably will not.
OverFlow (OverFlow@phreaker.net)
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Power issue with new motherboards
Some psroblems of V3800 are caused by the 3.5V supply to the AGP slot, make sure
your Power Supply 3.3V output is not less than 3.5V to the AGP slot. If the output
is less than 3.5V , there is some jumper setting in the new mother board such as P3B_F ,
JP20 (VIO) I/O Voltage setting, set to pin 2,3 which is set to 3.65V can help you to solve
all your black screen and all problem. Otherwise you need to replaced your power supply
with a higher power output one.
Leung Wai Boon
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Power issue Asus P2L97
There is a rework on ASUS' website. This rework feeds 3.3V directly to the Video
thereby bypassing the on board regulator. I read in a different newsgroup that it is
may work on other motherboards. You would have to be very familiar with electronics
and reworking circuits to do this yourself. Use at your own risk. Here is a link.
http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Techref/Misc/rivatnt-rework.html
Tom Wilkinson
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Power issue Asus P2B-D
Well I think i went to the extreme on this one....
Kids dont try this at home.
First I realized that the P2B-D mother has voltage reg on the mobo. Then from recent posts
I read a workaround for removing the VR but it was for a different board. Well if they can
do it for that one than the P2B-D's VR can be removed also.
I found where the VR is located on the P2B-D. It at the lower right hand side of the board
near the DIMM slots. I tested it with a VM. 3.23V same voltage I was getting from the
bios.
I proceed to cut the leg that was reading 3.3V....(right leg)
I jumped the 3.3V from the power supply to the solder point on the board. I cranked my
system up and wala, it boots. The bios reported 3.3+ System went into windows fine, no
more black screen.
Now for the real test....TV out. Well TV Out did not work the first time. I then realized
that a Asus Tech said the V3800 needs about 3.4 3.5 to operate correctly, so I went into
the powersupply, found the pot for the 3.3V and raised it to about 3.55.
Cranked her up again, Went into windows , test TV Out and it worked. YEAH ABY!!!
So I guess my board is out of warrenty, and I may risk shortening the life of my hardware,
but it beats not having the product work at all( lesser of twoevils ;) )
Some things to be cautious about:
Remove all cards even processor for the first time, memory etc... If you find your VR and
remove it, test that your system is responding to the 3.3V from the PSU. Next Put in your
processor (I just put in one first) turned it on and heard beeps, that is a good sign. Get your video working so you can get to your bios and see
what your Voltage is set to. The rest should be simple. If you still dont have enough
voltage, try what I did with the PSU, or replace the PSU.
Good Luck, I hope Asus dont get offended that I did this, and am passing this information
on to you. Please dont blame me if you fry your motherboard, or hardware.
I think Asus will release a workaround similar to this too.
Joe Puma
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Power issue Asus P2B-D (follow up)
Joe Puma
I made a website for the mod I did, a lot of people emailed me ask for me to give it to
them.
Good Luck everyone, let Asus know if its sucessful.
The Mod is to remove the VR from the P2B-D/DS some P2B-D/DS VR is outputing lower the 3.3V
causing the V3800 not to work. They say if you have a good PSU, putting out good AMPs on
the 5V side you'll get a good 3.3V regulation. I have a good PS and still below normal 3.3V
Besides the V3800 card need over 3.45V to operate, and removing the VR, was the best
option to due. If and when or whenever ASUS comes out with a resolution for this problem,
then I'll look into and see if its worth the bother, but until then I can use this card in
my system, and everything is work good.
ASUS Visit the site tell me if its up to your spec, and when your ready to admit to this
problem and not call the boards that have this problem "bad samples" Let me
know, and I might let you use my mod!! With a fee of course :)
heres the site:
http://members.xoom.com/bknunion/unofficial.htm
GOOD LUCK!!
Joe Puma
--------------------------------
BTW you can measure your 3.3V with Motherboard Monitor
http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~a.vankaam/mbm/
Over Flow <OverFlow@phreaker.net>
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33- Trouble shooting
Please describle the system configuration and problem.
Please also be careful that poblem may be from many possible factor in your system. you
have to double verify to CPU, Main board, HDD, system memory this critical but few
people knows that ) AGP, PCI card (sounds card like SB-Live may crupt too), power level as
well. The simple way to verify it is temporary remove all other device from system. Just
keep necessary part to run, if still have problem, try to slow down CPU or system memory.
If you still have problem, then try to do "change command in pci" disbale
sidband signal. => this used to verify AGP bus. If you still have problem, try to
disable all AGP apperture memory ( in main board BIOS ), that will force V3800 to run all
in PCI. If it works, then the AGP mini-port driver ( or called VGARTD ) or AGP bus has
issue.
So, please understand many where has possibility. it is not as simple as driver only.
Before doing the testing, please be sure that all other VGA driver have been removed out
from HDD. ( delete it from registry editor )
HC HUNG
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34- Rework your board ?
NOTE: it has been said, though not confirmed by
Asus, that V3800 cards with series numbers beginning with 97C... and
above (rather than 96C.... and below) have been modified to avoid the problems
generated by using low power motherboards (found under the bar code
information on the packing box).
-------------------------------------------
At the request of many persons in this newsgroup, Asus has given a way to rework your card
when your motherboard doesn't give sufficient voltage to the vieo card when needed. YOU
DON'T HAVE TO REWORK YOUR BOARD YOURSELF. See the other posts below.
J.M. Poulin
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Why
Mr Hung, correct me if i am wrong... but isnt a 3.3 line supposed to supply 3.3v, not 3.45
or 3.25 etc etc, i know it can be adjusted and all, but wouldnt it have been a good idea
to make sure that computers that were marginal (the 3.3 that is supposed to be there) do
actually like running this card.
Nick Hughes
Yes, according to spec, it should be 3.3V in AGP slot with enough currentl. Unfortuntly,
we found the main board with problem like this case are with 3.3V from PSU without fine
tune. Since a lot of component may inside the system, including system memory, harddisk,
SCSI, lan card, PCI sound card, CD-ROM,... are need power. So, measure the
power level on AGP slot, and found it drops to near 3.16V in AGP bus. if you plus the
up/low ripple on 3.3V VCC ( pin in AGP ), then, at the lowest level of the VCC ripple, you
may get even less than 3.1V. This is the key reason why TV-out unstable. Provide enough
cvurrent or pull it a little bit higher all help to solve the ssue.
HC HUNG
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How to know
There has some monitor software can measure your on board voltage. Or just put probe to
the AGP bus. ( opposit side of main board ) . But, If TV-out function works, then you may
not need to care about low voltage issue. Again, the low voltage is from main board
not from card. My post about how to re-work is just in case that your main board has low
voltage, and you have no-way to solve it. then you can try it. If you have no confidence
to re-work by yourself, call Asus retailer to revise one.
HC HUNG
----------------
Solution given by ASUS:
For V3800TV, and V3800Ultra user who have low voltage issue on some main board and like to
do re-work by yourself, please see the following detail:
re-work guild:
Put additional two resistors on component location:
R139=4.7K ohm(0603, 1/16Watt)
R140=4.7K ohm(0603, 1/16Watt)
Component R139, and R140 is just beside to the left-down corner of TNT2 chip.
Please Be careful on re-work.
This re-work can fix the low voltage of 3.3V from AGP bus for the card. The system with
low 3.3v voltage is still not very good at all, even V3800 can work smoothly. May be you
need to careful on it. By the way, the low voltage issue may only happen on some main
boards with critical PSU. If you are not EE engineer and you really have this issue, then
I recommend you to revise new V3800 from your dealer ASAP.
Asus / HC HUNG
If You have no problem on current configuration, then please don't re-work it. If there
has on board regulator, then changing PSU will give you no help on power-level. Changing
PSU will help to those main board without regulator.
Asus / HC Hung
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Doc. available
If you need the map to show you how to do, please mail request to me.
HC HUNG
----------------------
You don't have to fix your board
Nobody said you HAD to fix the board yourself. ASUS will rework the board if you send it
back to them (contact TSD/ASUS Support for details). The message on how to do the rework
yourself was posted because other people on the ng
asked for it. If you had read through the postings you would have seen the request.
Scott Small
--------------------------
If you can not get replace service, Please contact Asus's TSD Please let me
stat it again; The replacement is only good for those low voltage main board.
If your main board has not problem to work with V3800, then you don't need to do
it. New replacement card has nothing better than old one. it just over-come low
voltage issue from main board.
ASUS / HC HUNG
---------------------------------
Did it
I've just added resistor 139 & 140 (4.7k) and the card works like a charm!
My power supply (250W) must've been just on the edge of the asus tolerance. What was so
frustrating was that the TV-out sometimes worked, and sometimes crashed. I opend up the
PSU, but it turned out that mine was not adjustable. So it was either: buy a new PSU, or
throw the card away. Luckily for me HC HUNG decided to give us the solution. It cost me
nothing, and it fixed my problem. Thanks Mr HUNG!
My advice to others: the operation - although simple - is rather delicate, so if you're
not very good with the soldering iron, get someone to do it for you.
Arthur Dent
---------------------------
Also tried the Nvidia drivers but everything captured is black and no TV out
I did 2 things: Changed the voltage 3.3 volt to 3.45 volt... Everything worked
better. But sometimes the problems came back.
Then I went to the local electronic store and bought there 2 resistors of 4.7k
Ohm and soldered them on the card like asus told in the message board. Now all
problems are gone !!!
You could also go to your reseller and ask for a later revised version. I think
that the card is the same only the two resistors are soldered at the positions
of R139 and R140 (placed at the lower left of the TNT2 chip)
Gert (the MaGic)
---------------------------
After I did that re-work with my Asus V3800 tvr everything works great. Now the
tv-out and the 3d-glasses are running.
There are only some little problems and i think that they are driver-related.
Carsten Kafitz
---------------------------
I just modified my 3800 (damn those surface mount resistors are hard to see ;)
and it has fixed the problem on my abit bh6 mobo. Yay tv out now works !
greg <greg@itcomputers.com.au>
(1999/08/26)
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35- AsusLive sound lost sync to video
Anyone noticed that after capturing over approx.10min the sound is >1 second
late(early?) ???
ucx
Solution
Before any1 rips any others heads off I would like to say that this problem has been
discussed many times here before .. The "delay" occurs because the framerate of the movie isn't exactly 25 (for pal
users) but instead 24.96 or something like that .. after 10 minutes or more the delay
becomes visible and very annoying.
So far the only program I have been able to find is still avi_io http://www.nct.ch/multimedia/avi_io/ which
can compensate for the delay by inserting extra frames (not visible).
Try that out.
Jakob
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36- MVP3 systems with v3400TNT (better performances)
In order to obtain the best performance with a VIA MVP3 system one should follow the next
installing procedure:
1. Windows 98 (or even better Windows 98SE)
2. DirectX 6.1 (in case of Windows 98, Win98SE has already included directX6.1)
3. Sound Drivers and other drivers (like Sound Blaster Live!, TV Tuner, etc...). In the
case of Sound Blaster Live! or Sound Blaster Live! Value or Aureal Cards make sure
you install the latest drivers, because someone experienced lock-ups with earlier versions
of A3D or LiveWare software. (However I didn't experienced ANY lockup with LiveWare 1.0,
but 2.1 is better anyway) AFTER I flashed my video BIOS with sideband DISABLED.
4. Video drivers (for the moment 1.91beta3 are the best performance drivers; for TV-out,
dual-view, without Macrovision protection one should install the 1.02 drivers; for TV-out
and some direct 3D and OpenGl performance the 2.17 drivers), or 2.08 Nvidia for best
performance (but without special features, like tv-out or image centering and re-dimension
of the screen size) (about 15% faster than Asus')
5. VIA Gart (Via Service Pack 4.01). I have found that installing the GART included by VIA
in SP 4.09 gets slower performance than the 4.01. I've installed the 4.09 gart manually
(copying it in the Windows\System directory). So keep the 4.01 which is best. About 25%
loss in 3D Mark 99 Max arise with SP 4.09 or without any GART. The GART MUST be installed
after DirectX 6.1 and the video drivers have been installed (in the case of Nvidia
drivers), because I found out that DirectX 6.1 and Nvidia drivers install their Intel GART
by default, overriding the VIA configuration, resulting in system crashes. So one
must make sure to install the GART after DirectX 6.1 and video drivers. No problem with
Asus drivers installed after GART, because the Asus' installing procedure doesn't include
GART drivers.
6. Flash BIOS with sideband DISABLED. Flashing BIOS with sideband enabled results in less
system stability without the VIA GART and less performance with the VIA GART installed.
Sideband disabled also assures compatiblity with ISA sound cards (like CS 4232 I
previously had), i.e. no more sound looping in games.
Other comments:
For Quake 2 version 3.20 at least in my system (K6-2/300) adding ForceMultiTexture=1 in
the registry under the key Local
Machine/Software/Nvidia/RivaTNT/OpenGl doesn't make any difference, but it might for other
games&system configurations. For 32bit colours, the SGI multitexture scheme is
implemented by default. You can check the features of the OpenGl driver in the console of
Quake 2 or Quake III Test Arena.
BIOS Settings:
Assign IRQ for AGP: Enabled
Assign IRQ for USB: Enabled
Other BIOS settings set to maximum performance and still no problems
Cristi Hossu
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37- 3400 wont't output to TV
I got Asus V3400 TV model card (AGP), Win98 SE, it simply won't output to TV! I tried
different drivers, have latest beta now, still nothing. I switch to 800x600, 640x680, any
number of colors, nothing! Functions in TV tab in advanced properties are
greyed out, not active. Any fix for this? If you have working drivers for this, please
e-mail them to me. Any ideas welcome. Thanks
CasaBlAncA
At your own risk:
That´s a very old but still common problem of the 3400, the DDC circuit of your monitor
isn´t implemented correctly. Either user a different monitor or somehow isolate Pins 11
and 15 (if I´m not mistaken), or cut them off, or use an extension cable and cut them off
there. It helps, TV-Out works fine afterwards.
Nils.
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Mr. Nils is 100% correct.
This is the DDC implementation error inside monitor.
Those monitors with problem are all designed one small controller inside to control the
DDC signal, sorry I can not explore the name of controler maker, This small control has
built one special code insdie for their special pupurse. However, this special code is
conflict to standard I2C address of on board video device. That is, when doing
initialization to those video device, the
small control code will get the I2C address. and assume specila thing to happen. and then
go to pull the DDC pin to prevent any acess. ( why need to do it? I don't know ) such that
Video devices on board can not work anymore.
The bug is from this small DDC controller inside monitor. Only solution: change monitor or
isolate the DDC pin from monitor.
Asus / HC HUNG
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38- TV out and Dual View
Mr. Hung,
Will the tv-out dual view function on the V3800 (once implemented) be fixed by a new board
revision or in software? What percent chance is there that Asus will be able to implement
dual view on the V3800 TNT2 Ultra? Can you give us a time frame?
Sean c/o Segels Co.
By software patch. schedule is soon.
Asus / HC UNG, 1999/08/17
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To get dual view with 2.25b drivers, use 800 by 600
definition and 60 Hz refresh rate before TV selection.
J.M. Poulin (1999/09/04)
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39- TNT2 and AMD-k6-2
I bought this new Riva TNT2-card and now I've got this small problem. Every
now and then everything stops and nothing moves on the screen. I've got a
AMD-K6-2-350mhz (with socket 7). I've tried with nothing but my asus-card and
it crashes still, so it's got to have something to do with my card! Please help me!
Is my card broken or what's wrong? I've tried nVidea
detonators and they don't even work! Please reply to my email@ fredu@sci.fi
Many thanx in advance!
-fredu
Fredu - I had the same problems.
1) Get rid of Win95. Even OSR 2.1 even with all upgrades. Install a new Win98 FULL
install. Has full AGP support.
Next - install DX 6.1 and then install the ALi AGP miniport assuming you have ALi.
Latest is 1.60. If you have a P5A or P5A-B, upgrade to latest BIOS 1007.
EMPTY your config.sys and autoexec.bat, only use the himem and emm386 things. Next
install the ASUS drivers or NVidia detonators. (always the latest) - Now, the
TNT2 is not recommended for use on Super7 MBs but yet some people have it working fine
... The TNT is optimized for the Intel AGP - While ALi will work with your TNT card
with the latest BIOS revision, it is not free of problems, you have to tweak your drivers
a bit to get it running stable.
I will attach to this post a .REG (Registry file) of my
NVIDIA registry key - this is what I use on my setup which is a P5A-B 1007 AMD K6-2
350Mhz Win98 ASUS V3400TNT and 2.08Final V3800drivers (V3800/V3400 drivers
actually). Hope it helps. BTW I have 128MB of RAM in my BIOS I have AGP turbo
enabled, K6 writeback enabled, sideband ENABLED.
Now in the following registry I use high quality mode for best OpenGL picture, you can
tweak those to your tastes.
Once saved, double-click on the file and it will change your registry setting in the
NVidia (have a look at it first if you wish) also I found that tweaking the
MaxFramesAllowed key in the opengl section from 2 to 3 or 3 to 2 can help in some cases.
- BUT use at your own risk!
Disclaimer: those tweaks worked on my system configuration which I outlined to
you - might not work for everyone. If you accept that go right ahead.
Rick Anderson
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40- ASF and codecs
You know ASF isn't a codec, it's merely a streaming format. You have to pick the proper
codecs and bitrates to get the desired quality. I ave done quite a few comparisons between
mpeg1 / mpeg2 and ASF. First of all, when referring to ASF I am talking about Microsoft's
mpeg4 v3 for the video codec with 160 kbps MSAudio for the audio codec. When referring to
mpeg1, I am talking about in general, taking into account the quality from all major mpeg
codecs / compresors out there. At near-VCD bitrates, the ASF had noticeably less
artifacting and far less aliasing due to motion estimation. The overall quality of ASF was
consistantly higher than not only mpeg1, but mpeg2 as well. Scaling the ASF to full screen
gave an even more dramatic difference in quality. The ASF codec remained virtually artifact free, with
extremely low amounts of aliasing while the mpeg video had the typical annoying mpeg
"tile" effect, as well as more noticeable motion estimation errors.
The only drawbacks to ASF is the issue of not cross platform, seeking is not
instantaneous, and it's an end-of-the-road format (once you encode something to ASF,
there's no way to edit or convert it to another format). But as far as quality, ASF using
the proper codecs is far superior to mpeg.
All comparisons made were done with non-realtime encoding by taking identical source AVI
clips and encoding them with Microsoft's free Windows Media 4.0 encoder.
-Rob diehlr@purdue.edu
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41- 3800 and SB-Live issue
See first: http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Techref/Tech-report/qa-media0799.html
mainly if using other drivers than Creative Liveware 2.0 and 2.1
J.M. Poulin
--------------------------------
If you are P3B-F user and have SB-Live issue, please update your mother board BIOS. (
Does need to change V3800. Just revise main board BIOS )
Asus / HC HUNG
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Do you have the AGP-Version of the 3800 and did you plug the SBLive! Value right in the
next PCI-Slot to the AGP-Slot? If you did, move the SBLive! Value to an other PCI-Slot and
leave this slot free, ´cause the AGP-Slot and the PCI-Slot beside it use the same
interrupt. If you´ve a PCI-Card remaining, choose one to plug in the slot beside the AGP,
that needs no interrupt...... It worked for me..........
Harald Kuhn
----------------------
You could try this.
Remove the SB Live from your computer. Enter in the BIOS settings and modify Reset ESCD
data or something like that. That should reset the addresses and I/O retain in the ESCD
memory and let Windows restart. Shutdown your computer and reinstall the SB Live. That
might do it. Another alternative would be to power off your computer and reinstall your SB
Live after you reset the ESCD configuration. It might of help. I told you that because
after I flashed my motherboard BIOS the Windows 98 found another device (motherboard
device or something like that) with some modified settings.
ARPRESS
------------------------
I am arrive a few moments to hear sound blaster but now nothing ? It seems that
the Asus 3800 has the same IRQ the the Sound Blaster, what can i do ?
Nicolas Scheffer
There are posts in this NG about problems with the SBLive Value and the 3800.
I have not had this problem with my SBLive 512 even with the SB card next to the
AGP slot. People have suggested that upgrading to Liveware 2.1 will fix the
problem. Another suggestion was to remove the SBLive DOS compatibility driver
from the autoexec.bat file.
Scott Small <shooter@netwave.ca>
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42- Games and video cards
I think, that the majority of us is interested in gaming with your cards (apart from
their useful additional features). I like my V3800, apart from its voltage shortage
(though thinking to change to the Ultra version), however there seem to be serious
problems with game support of this chip in general (as far as VR support is concerned), at
least for those, that won't work out of the box through D3D or OpenGl.
A failed with EA Sports Games (World Cup'98, NBA'99, Need for Speed, etc.) in general,
also without glasses turned on, even installation fails (excet Superbike, which is great),
Ubisoft's Redline Racer does nothing, but blinking a rather white screen when the game
starts (the front end is 3D however). The very same problem was with Motorhead - which is
said to be
specifically supported, at least on the box of the card -, but the latest beta driver
solved this problem. Etc., etc., etc.
My question is, whether or not you know about such problems, work on solution to them or
are in contact with the developers of problem games to pursue them to make pathces for
these games?
Janos Csaszar
In every release, we tested many games. But some times the condition is not as simple
as we test-environment. Because that the following item are all possible to produce
problem:
1. main board design
2. power voltage level in system
3. sounds card
4. IRQ setting
5. system memory
6. AGP glitch from main board
7. VGA chip bug or driver bug
8. Bug from Asus modification
Asus / HC HUNG
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43- Video compression CODEC: ideas and suggestions
Asus ASV1 CODAC does not implement any audio compression. So, the audio
quality is just response to its original quality in your system. For the Video,
ASV1 is I-frame only, ( IPB is next step which we are doing ). So eventuatly, it
is the same as MJPEG idea.
For video editing, I have to say, I frame only is better than IPB. Since you
never know where user will insert and past a special effect.
Qaulity is dependent on how much data you make it lossy. Since ASV1 algorithem
is very good, we do not need to lost many data to get performance. So I have
confidence on its quality for professional comsumer users ( but not for
Professional broadcasting, it is far beyond all quality from input to output in
our PC today )
Asus / HC HUNG
Hello Mr. Hung,
First of all, I would like to let you know that I think it's great that
you yourself in your current high position at the graphics cards
devision of ASUS are replying to many users in this newsgroup directly.
I do not know of any other company around in PC world of which an
employee at your position openly discusses the delicate issues you write
about. Most companies simply don't answer hardware questions they don't
like to hear.
You always try to answer to questions that you think you could have a
solution for or a solution is on it's way. Those are the most useful
replies you could give. Of course, you still have to work on the
improvements also besides answering questions here.
I know that many people around here are sometimes impatient about some
issues they have and are not so polite in their responses to you, but
you still remain here and keep answering and trying to give inside info.
That deserves some respect, I think, even if others here will probably
think that I'm 'sucking up' to you, but if they read some other posts of
me in usenet they may think differently because I also let people know
if I don't agree or like something they are doing or how they are
treating customers. Also I often try to help people if I know of a
possible solution to a problem.
Having said this, I will continue with a reply to your post:
Your comments were very interesting. I am very interested and active in
the field of digital video. I own a Pinnacle DC1000 card, so I think
this illustrates how important quality is to me.
I think your approach to video capture is very refreshing, and also it
is not bound to a single method of compression. In theory, you can do
anything you want in the field of codecs, as long as say a PentiumII-333 and higher in combination with a harddisk is capable of sustaining the
calculation and storage of the compressed fields.
From your post, I understand that you have implemented MPEG-like
compression with I-Frames only in your ASV1 codec. The next step you
want to take is going completely MPEG by implementing the P and B frames, resulting in realtime MPEG-1 compression. (the MJPEG in your
post was most likely a simple typing error, I think, since IBP refers to
MPEG technique)
It seems to me that the ASV1 codec is already an MPEG codec, with
I-frame only.
I always have this in mind when I read about realtime MPEG: the more
compression in realtime, the higher the chance is that quality loss
occurs. This problem can of course be solved with extremely creative programming resulting in very efficient realtime MPEG compression. I
think that with smaller frames(352x288), quality with high compression
may be a bigger problem since the video frame size is already cut in
four and less fine detail remains in the frames.
When I look at various 'professional'-consumer level capturing products,
many of them do it slightly different than realtime MPEG: They compress
at low compression rates, trying to get as little loss of image quality as possible with harddisk transfer rates. This captured material is then
edited by a program such as Adobe Premiere, and then it is compressed
into the final IBP stage into MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 by a software application
that is not realtime, and takes as much time as it needs to carefully
compress into MPEG-1 or -2.
For example, the DC1000 (DVExplore chip by C-Cube) is an MPEG-2 capture
product, but in fact it really captures IPPP MPEG-2 which has two big
advantages:
1. Quality is still maintained because realtime IPPP has less quality
loss than IBP MPEG-2 because IPPP requires less realtime processing
power. Less power is needed so the compressor chip can take more care of
quality.
2. IPPP is very different from say:MJPEG, because it uses groups of one
'JPEG' frame(I) and several calculated prediction(P) frames, that are
smaller than full MJPEG frames in byte size. This means that the data
rate decreases dramatically during capture. A simple UltraDMA ATA33
harddisk is sufficient and the DC1000 records in near studio (if not
real studio) quality in full 720x480/720x576 sized frames.
Now I'm not saying that it's possible to achieve this by software only,
but the idea still remains interesting, using IPPP instead of IBP and
compressing later, with non realtime software. This certainly has high quality possibilities at lower harddisk data rates.
Also I think that the compression you have now achieved with ASV1 codec
is very high. But that is probably because you are working towards MPEG
in realtime. When I calculate how small the AVI frames actually are, I
almost think: why don't they use less compression and achieve even
higher quality then they do now? I was surprised at how high you managed
to get the compression. If I calculated right, it was possible to
capture over 70 minutes of 352x288 including audio with the 2GB maximum
AVI size barrier. That's similar to MPEG in data rate, but a much larger
part of this data is even uncompressed audio, so the video data part is
even smaller than MPEG-1.(if I remember right from my calculations)
I used the ASV1(high quality) codec.
Did you ever consider a codec that has less compression and higher data
rates?
If you would try to achieve this, quality of the captured material would
dramatically increase.
I think that a harddisk rate of say 3MB/s for A/V(352x288) would produce
excellent results with a good software codec.
I have not seen this tried by any similar card to the V3800/TV, I
believe. Most other cards always want to go with realtime MPEG
compression and don't consider what high quality would actually be
possible with software codecs these days, if less compression were used. I read about software MJPEG (motion-JPEG) all the time. There are at
least 4 of these codecs for sale at the moment, mostly used for playback
of MJPEG AVIs on systems that don't have a MJPEG hardware card.
Do you think it would be possible to create a codec that has less
compression? It seems to me that less compression would be easier than
more compression. Less compression and achieving near studio quality at
quarter sized frames (352x288) will probably still be very difficult to
do in realtime.
However, if you achieve high video quality that people start to talk
about, I think you could win over quite a few customers from the desktop
video field. I have even seen questions in a desktop video newsgroup
about your V3400/3800 TNT/TV products. After all, it is a great deal to
offer video capture in addition to all the other great things the card
can already do. If you can lower the compression and increase quality
even more, you will have a much stronger argument to win over desktop
video users.
When people buy a seperate capture card with hardware compression, very
often they know and accept that they will need additional software to
work with it, such as video editors and software MPEG compression
programs.
The V3400/TV and V3800/TV solutions are cheaper, so it would be even
more cost-efficient to buy a V3800/TV with a very good external 3rd
party MPEG-1 application instead of an expensive hardware capture card
which also needs additional MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 software compression. Of
course, the V3800/TV option would need less compression and even higher
quality and higher data rates than it has now to be able to be tempting
for desktop video product buyers.
I think that it could theoretically be possible to develop a codec for
the V3800 that has such low compression and high quality that it comes
close to MJPEG products such as a DC30 or similar. You yourself
explained a while ago how these MJPEG cards work with a fixed ROM
program inside the MJPEG chip that can't be changed, only setup by the
driver. The V3400/V3800 codecs are totally independant of hardware
compression and can have any features you want if you can program them
with current CPU power.
What do you think of my idea of using less compression and raising
quality as an option for those that don't mind not having realtime? I
don't mean dropping the idea of realtime MPEG capture, but adding a 'top
quality' codec as an option instead...
Even though the ASV1 codec is very efficient and has good results if
your source material is good as well, I think that raising the data rate
and dropping the compression could increase quality dramatically, and
make it possible to have better results with source material that is not
so perfect quality. After all, not many people own studio video tape
recorders at home, so they have to do it with VHS or S-VHS...
I think you may agree with me on this...
Also, I think that the higher compression codecs you are developing are
in fact more suitable for full 704x576 capture because the larger frame
size already increases quality allowing for a little more compression
for storing all frames without dropping them during capture.
For 352x288, I think these codecs are almost to efficient, and the data
rates are a bit low. Perhaps you could seperate 352x288 capture codecs from 704x576? This
could improve the 352x288 quality very much, I believe...
Well, just a few of my beliefs and opinions on this very interesting
subject. I couldn't resist writing and posting this, even though there
could be some negative reactions. :-)
Rodney Knaap.
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44- Slow video playback
You can try the DirectX Media 6.0 Run Time Patch.
Here is the text from microsoft download page
(http://www.microsoft.com/directx/homeuser/downloads/default.asp)
:
DirectX Media 6.0 Run Time Patch
If your system includes the DirectX Media 6.0 run time, you'll want to download
the DirectX Media 6.0 Run Time Patch which fixes two problems that were
discovered after DirectX Media 6.0 released. One problem causes slow playback of
certain video formats and the other is a DirectAnimation screensaver fault. When
you run the patch it will tell you whether or not it is necessary for your
system-the patch only applies to the DirectX Media 6.0 run time.
CBorivant@lgs.ca
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45- Black Screen @ Bootup (power issue revisited by Scott
Small)
NOTE: it has been said, though not confirmed by
Asus, that V3800 cards with series numbers beginning with 97C... and
above (rather than 96C.... and below) have been modified to avoid the problems
generated by using low power motherboards (found under the bar code
information on the packing box).
Does anybody have this problem from Time to Time. You turn the PC on, the windows 98 logo appears, flips back to the DOS Screen, the Screen goes Black
with a little flashing cursor in the top Left... THEN the Black Screen. At this point you need to Physically turn the machine off and on again.
Windows will now restart but in 640 by 480 in 16 Colour mode.
I running the 208c driver for the V3800, which I download from the the Beta FTP.... I haven't applied any Bios updates...(Sorry Can't recall what
version I have)...
Any ideas....
Wayne Gibson, Intel PII 233, Shuttle MotherBoard, 64MB of RAM, 8GB H/Disk
----------------------------
It happens 100% of the time on my computer. Asus told me to return the card to
the dealer in exchange for a new revision of the card. The only work around is to use nVidia's display drivers.
I have tried every Asus driver release and they all do the same thing. I have tried 2 different motherboards and 2 different power supplies and they
all do the same.
James Petroski
----------------------------
Sorry, Shuttle main board is based on which chip set? Do you have low-voltage issue on the main board to cause
TNT2 unstable? Can you read BIOS report about how many voltage of 3.3 VIO in your system? and PSU power?
Or please flash BIOS without side band
HC HUNG
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after removing any other driver from system, please install new V2.08 driver.
The reason why I recommend V2.08 is:
Old version of driver has doing TV out checking while booting up system if you have low voltage issue, most happen on ABIT MB like yours, then system will wait for response from TV chip. However, the low voltage from AGP bus will cause TV chip very slow response, then system keep waiting
for ... after long time, waiting, system will back to work. However, since the
waiting is too long, most people think his system is crush. but it is not true.
So, please use V2.08B3 or B4.
HC HUNG
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The video decoder issue may be the same as low voltage to main board. or compatibility to the VGA monitor. ( some VGA monitor report ID with
corruption to the Philip 7113 on card )
1. checking voltage, if it is low, then revise the card a doing re-work.
2. test it with different monitors.
HC HUNG
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Sounds familiar...
It was happening to me when I rebuilt my system. It turned out that my extra IDE
controller was using the same interrupt as the v3400. Installing the driver for the Promise controller BEFORE the video driver cured it.
I'm not sure if this is of any use, but it's worth checking the interrupts anyway.
JC - Belfast
----------------------------
I had that problem. I never downloaded any new drivers. What finally worked was
formatting the hard drive, installing my old PCI video card, reinstalling Windows
98, changed the driver to Standard PCI VGA, shut down, installed the 3800 TVR, and
then installed all the drivers from the CD rom. Bingo, it worked. Now it has another problem. Asus Live won't load. It tells me that my card does not have a
video decoder. It worked before. I had since installed QuickTime 4. Maybe that
had something to do with it. We'll see.
Greg Johnson
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Scott Small
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46- TVR3800 + Creative 7160 pink/green DVD images solved
Kind of....
The image colours are OK, but these problems remain:
1: Right hand edge of image is appearing on left hand edge of monitor.
2: green lines flash across DVD window in non-fullscreen mode.
3: PAL composite output to a 29" TV beats the pants off of display to a
20" philips CM2799 monitor (1024*768*32bpp*72Hz) - There are noticeable
jaggies on the RGB monitor and for some reason creative playcenter has colour
and saturation controls disabled.
how to do it, fast way.
1: Open regedit.
2: find [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Creative Tech\PC-DVD\PCILx\Drivers\Video\vgaTypes\savage]
3: Change "decMode" value 4 to 3 (or 2)
4: fiddle with crop values until flashes disappear.
5: fiddle with other stuff until the aspect ratio is right (or until you break
things and have to start over)
save and exit, and it's done.
Better way:
Generate a new registry key for the Asus card and install it.
Here's the Creative Savage key. It's a starting point...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Creative Tech\PC-
DVD\PCILx\Drivers\Video\vgaTypes\savage]
"cropLeft"=dword:0000000c
"cropRight"=dword:00000004
"cropTop"=dword:00000000
"cropBottom"=dword:00000004
"brightness"=dword:00000007
"forceHalfWidth"=dword:00000000
"manualShrinkX"=dword:00000000
"manualShrinkY"=dword:00000000
"motionFilter"=dword:00000000
"dataCropTop"=dword:ffffffff
"dataCropLeft"=dword:00000000
"fourCC"=dword:00000000
"prescale"=dword:00000000
"decMode"=dword:00000004
I'm sure the card+software is capable of better results than I'm seeing if
tweaked up properly - Right now imported photographs as wallpaper look better
than the DVD player output.
AB (J. Random User)
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47- Win 98 440 Chipset white, red, blue lines, crash
I have a very big problem with a V3800, every time i restart my computer under
win98, the card seems to don't be initialize corectly and i have some white,
red, bleu etc... line on my screen and the computer crash !! i have 2.08 driver
with .13sb bios with a dual processor ... So i need help ... .... Pleaaasse
..:))
The only way to start corectly after that is to shutdown to computer AND the ATX
power suply !
Xavier
He he, I just solved this problem . You need to install the Intel INF update.
Check out there site. www.intel.com . It's a
little hard to find, but I'm sure both Win95 and Win98 need it to detect 440BX
stuff.
Muzza
See: http://developer.intel.com/design/software/drivers/platform/440.htm
J. M. Poulin
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48- AGP bus speed (overclocking the motherboard)
Caution: the normal AGP bus speed is 66MHz (1:1 for 66 MHz bus
frequency; 2:3 for 100 MHz bus frequency).
J.M. Poulin (august 1999)
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I have an ABIT BX2 with a overclocked celeron processor and a 250W power
supply, I finally got the video capture to work. My bd serial number (back
of board) is 96A060-C1AV8F-A04-02275, box 96C7163599. My motherboard 3.3V
is around 3.25 to 3.26 (using hardware doctor). After updating to the 2.09
beta1 drivers, installing the latest live38, and playing with various bios
settings the video capture started working. The setting that finally made
the difference was in the CPU soft menu, I changed the AGPCLK/CPUCLK to 2/3
instead of 1/1 (not sure why I had 1/1). I still intend on updating my
ABIT bios, changing my ASUS drivers to the new 209E rev and maybe flashing the
asus bios, but right now everything is working.
Jeff
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Hang on is he shure that the AGP buss is locked at 66MHz, future expansion
says
that this would be suicide for any motherboard manufacturer, and AGP has to be
at 66MHz.
Muzza
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1. On the Intel BX chipset there's no way to set 1:2 AGP from
CPU bus speed. One can set only 2:3 or 1:1 AGP bus frequency. I'm not sure
that AGP 1.x can help if the CPU bus is set to 133MHz and 1:1 in this case
(and I can't try).
2. On ALi and VIA motherboards the AGP is set to 66MHz
whatever CPU bus speed one choose, so VIA MVP Pro might be a better
solution for overclockers with PII systems without damaging the video card.
Other (non-true) AGP cards, like Voodoo Banshee or Voodoo 3
seem no to have that problem, and some Intel i740 vga cards work even better
on higher AGP speeds, rather than CPU. God, this is weird!
The main difference between AGP 1.x and AGP 2.x is when the
signal is tranferred (technically its the same bus speed, but the data is
transferred twice, on the rising and the falling of the (pseudo-rectangular)
wave, hope my English is right :-)
Cristi Hossu <cristi@rlib.kappa.ro>
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To all those people like myself who like to overclock their systems and get
more out of their chips remember this:
By overclocking u overclock the AGP slot...
By setting the bus speed to 75Mhz and using a AGP multiplier of 1/1 you
effectively have overclocked your TNT2 as well. By my experience the ASUS TNT2
gets EXTREMEMLY HOT...and then crashes...U need to set the AGP multiplier to 2/3
which will get the AGP clock speed down to 50Mhz on a 75Mhz bus. So now you are
UNDERCLOCKING ... so your not really getting the performace u should...This is
the trouble I've had overclocking my Celeron
466..
This also applies to people overclock PII and PIII with 100FSB...the AGP
multiplier is set to 2/3 automatically so the AGP bus is 66Mhz whilst the FSB is
100Mhz...But by clocking the FSB to 112 or 133 or whatever you are OVERCLOCKING
THE AGP BUS...and that is the course of all the RAMDOM
crashes..it's all caused by HEAT!
So...to conclude...either don't overclock(not exceptable) or GET SO EXTRA
COOLING....especially around the APG slot and the connection to the board...
Have Fun Overclocking PPL! Hope this helps a little...sorta confusing I
know...but that's computers for you...
Splittgerber <splittge@eisa.net.au>
(1999/09/04)
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49- No color on the TV
I got the monitor output to the TV. But there is no color shown on the TV.
I'm using PAL for output and my TV or vcr are both multi system.
Loke
You probably tried to use the S-VHS convertor. There are no problem if you
use the composite cable (connecting PC and TV via the composite output of the
card). Connect the composite cable to the card and to your
SCART but do not use the S-VHS convertor (The cable goes from composite output
to my SCART adaptor and it works fine).
CBorivant@lgs.ca
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50- VR Glasses - ghosting problem
It is not a voltage issue (seems like a buzz word now...hehe). Liquid crystal
technology is like an ON or OFF switch so more voltage would just cause damage
to the glasses. What is to be done if you want more opaque (darker) shutters is
to boost the tickness of the LCD "lens" or add more than one lens. You
could try putting sun glasses on but it would probably just darken the whole
display. Maybe they could change the type of components of the lens too, but
that's another story.
TheDead <thedead@sommet.net>
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I´m quite shocked to read that you suggest putting sunglasses on your LCD glasses. It is of course no voltage issue, but generally the glasses
themselves have very little to do with ghosting. My H3D/Wicked/Elsa glasses exhibit exactly the same amount of ghosting as the Vrex glasses
I use with my Asus board. There seems to be a lot of confusion on ghosting and the single most important thing is the monitor itself and
the tube it is using. It is unfair to blame Asus or Elsa or any VR glasses manufacturer for ghosting. What matters is the time the phosphor
(or other materials used in the tubes right now) needs to produce another image, i.e. how long the phosphor glows after the image has been
rendered. There are cheap monitors with no gohsting and expensive monitors with extensive ghosting, even monitors of the same model might
show different ghosting. The only chance to find a monitor with little ghosting is to try it out in the shop. Making other glasses would
improve the result only very slightly.
PS: Take a look at www.stereo3d.com for extensive reports about ghosting.
Nils Krumrey <nils.krumrey@gmx.net>
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The ghosting is definately a combination of your screen with the glasses, not
the glasses on their own. I am running the V3800 glasses (VR-100) and a SONY
20" screen and have no noticable ghosting in almost any game. The only game
that has any sort of ghost image is TOCA2, if you are driving a white
car and look really hard, you can just see a ghost image, it certainly does not
take away from the game. Before even thinking about buying the Elsa glasses,
borrow a high quality screen and see the difference...
Gerard <gerard@somewhere.in.au>
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I think you're right on the money. The phosphors in the screen take quite
a long time to decay (like when
you switch off a TV at night, and can still see the ghost of the image for a
while). So no matter how good your glasses are, the monitor is switching
between the 2 views so quickly that in effect both are seen. With some good
phosphor coatings (eg. the sony mentioned) the decay is much faster ie. less
ghosting.
One solution for reducing the ghosting might be to turn down the brightness of
the screen (unfortunately the side effect is that the picture gets dimmer
through the already dark glasses)
Arthur Dent <me@home.com>
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